Showing posts with label water heater. Show all posts
Showing posts with label water heater. Show all posts

Monday, May 24, 2021

Water heaters? Expansion Tanks?

Our water heaters are nearing 14-15 years old. All water heaters should be considered for replacement before they fail.  Owners are liable for up to $10, 000 of water damage caused by failures originating in their units.

Water damage is our greatest concern.  When replaced, be sure that the expansion tanks are properly pressurized to 55 PSI. This has been the cause of all failures to date.  Ask the installed to write the date and pressure on the tank. 


Update: Several water heaters have been replaced in 900 Marshy Cove.

Some have been direct tank-type replacements, cost: ~$2200.

Three have been tankless water heaters: cost ~$5000

They both work satisfactorily, The tankless unit takes up less space possibly allowing some additional closet storage

Original Equipment: A.O. Smith Model Number: GPDT 50L 100

This unit is a 50 gallon potable water heater that services both heating and tap water.  

To all owners at 900 Marshy Cove,

The research has been done for you.
Q: What do I do if my water heater starts to leak?
Q: Who is qualified to replace it?
Q: Have they done it before?
Q: What is the replacement unit model number?
Q: What about a tank-less water heater?
Q: How much will it cost?
Q: Is there a way to detect a leak as soon as it happens?
Q: What if I am away?




Thursday, July 16, 2020

TIME BOMB IN YOUR UNIT..TICK..TICK..TICK.. DRIP.. DRIP..DRIP

Below are photos of expansion tanks that were replaced after springing leaks.

Several days ago, Unit 201 sprung a leak. The tenants didn't notice the leak because it was more damaging to Unit 101 below.  Unit 101 had dry wall damage and part of the ceiling collapsed. Furniture and carpeting were soaked, We don't know the total cost of repair but somebody is out a few bucks.

On a previous failure, a leaky expansion tank caused damage to the owner's unit and the units below. Guess who was liable?  Yes, the unit owner with the leak.
Your homeowners insurance must cover the first $5000, (soon to be $10,000). The condo association aka you neighbors insurance picks up the rest. That could mean a higher rate for all of us.

The board has recommended replacement every five years since 2014. Not everybody has taken our advice.  The cost is under $150.  Talk about an ounce of prevention! 

Mid Shore Plumbing has provided pictures of expansion tanks they removed previously. You will see from the photos that these tanks could have burst at anytime. This is even more of a reason for each and every owner to replace theirs. It was also recommended that these tanks be replaced every four years as a precautionary measure.
For replacement, contact Mid Shore Plumbing directly at 410/228-9003.
 They know how to properly pressurize the tanks to prevent premature failure of the tank.
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Do not take this advice lightly.  A penny today can save thousands of dollar(s) tomorrow............................



This one may look good, but don;t trust it. 
Tick...tick..tock...Drip...drip....drop

You should also consider a leak detector.


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Tuesday, June 16, 2020

Best Practices. Water Heater Replacement

To all owners at 900 Marshy Cove,

The research has been done for you.
Q: What do I do if my water heater starts to leak?
Q: Who is qualified to replace it?
Q: Have they done it before?
Q: What is the replacement unit model number?
Q: What about a tank-less water heater?
Q: How much will it cost?
Q: Is there a way to detect a leak as soon as it happens?
Q: What if I am away?


Water Heater Maintenance and Replacement Guide
The water heaters in 900 Marshy Cove were installed in 2007.  Many of us can expect to experience operational problems in the next few years. Recently, several have required replacement of the ignitors, safety pressure relief valves, and mixing valves. Expansion tanks have routinely required replacement.
As of May 2020, no water tank has leaked. A.O. Smith, the manufacturer warrants the tank for 10 years, so we need to be on watch for water leaks.  The consequences can be very costly.
Included in this guide are maintenance tips, replacement information, and operational information.
Theory of Operation
Our water heaters use natural gas which is metered separately for each unit. The water heater has two functions: heating the unit and heating hot tap water. 
Heating: The tank is connected to a set of heating coils located in the laundry room.  When needed, the hot water from the tank is circulated to the coils and the fan blows the heated air through the ductwork.
Tap water: Hot tap water is also sourced from the water heater. To make it safe an “anti-scolding” value mixes the hot water with cold water to bring to it a safe temperature. The mixing valve above the tank is required by code.
Expansion Tank: The small tank above the water heater is also required by code. Since water expands when it is heated, the tank provides room for the water to expand. It contains a rubber diaphragm that is designed to accommodate the expansion. If not installed properly, the diaphragm breaks and eventually causes the tank to corrode and leak.
Controls: Near the base of the tank are the temperature controls for the tank water.
Burner and Igniter: Under the tank is a gas burner. When heat is required, the ignitor makes a spark which ignites the gas. If no flame is sensed the gas will cut off for safety.  
Operation: For more detailed information including photographs, go to https://900marshycove.blogspot.com/
Water Heater
§  Set water temperature higher in the heating months.
§  In summer months, set the water heater lower.
§  If you are away for a period of time, do not turn the water heater off.  Set it to “Vacation” (low) to save gas and prevent freezing.
§  Some units have an electrical baseboard heater, set it to a moderate temperature to prevent pipe freezing.
§  Set the mixing valve to control the spigot water temperature. The mixing valve keeps the temperature at a safe level no matter what the tank temperature is.
Expansion Tanks
§  Expansion Tanks should be replaced every 5 years.
§  These units must be properly pressurized to prevent leakage,
§  Check the installation date and pressure written on the tank.
Qualified Plumbers
§  Mid-Shore Plumbing, Kenny Prahl ---(410)228-9003
§  Blackwater, Vernon – (410)221-0180
§  Skip Windsor, Plumber--- (443)521-5217


Replacement options:  Spec sheets are available on the 900 Marshy Cove blog site.  http://900marshycove.blogspot.com/p/water-heater.html
Option One is to replace the original unit with an equivalent version. Two companies offer a 50-gallon gas water heater that is a physical match in size and piping.  
A.O. Smith Model: GDPX 50L ; $1800;   
              Installed cost, $2500 depending on other ancillary parts.
State water heaters: Model GS6 50 YRPDTL 5; $1700;
              Installed cost $2300 depending on other ancillary parts
These units are identical. One is a re-label of the same unit,
Option Two is to replace the unit with a tank-less water heater.  Tank-less water heaters require less space and are more energy efficient.  Without a tank, the risk of a water problem seems less likely.  These units cost about twice as much.  ~$6000-$7000.  Tank-less water heaters have been successfully installed at Willow Oak and at 900 Marshy Cove.

Qualified Plumbers for water heater installation

·       Mid-Shore Plumbing, Kenny Prahl ---(410) 228-9003
·       Mid shore has installed several 50-gallon tank water heaters and has worked for several owner in our building.
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      Blackwater, Vernon Webb – (410)221-0180
·       Blackwater has installed a tank-less water heater in 900 Marshy Cove

Qualified Installer:  Proper installation is imperative as this may affect other units in the building
A qualified installer must have ability equivalent to a licensed tradesman in the fields of plumbing, air supply, venting and gas supply, including a thorough understanding of the requirements of the National Fuel Gas Code as it relates to the installation of gas fired water heaters. The qualified installer must also be familiar with the design features and use of flammable vapor ignition resistant water heaters and have a thorough understanding of this Installation and Operating manual.

Other Considerations:
The installation of a Carbon Monoxide Detector is recommended in the proximity of the water heater. These are readily available at hardware stores for $20-$30

A water leak detector with WIFI capability is recommended. Honeywell Wi-Fi Water Leak & Freeze Detector is available on Amazon.com for $59.00





A failed expansion tank and an AO Smith 52 gallon water heater
Best regards,
George B - President 900 Marshy Cove Condo Association

Friday, May 8, 2020

What if you hot water tank leaked. How soon would you know?

Our unit water heaters are 12 years old.
WHAT IF?
You are away for the week?
You are in the next room?
You went shopping for an hour?
How much water would flow in that time?
This device could save you thousands of $$$$
Wi-Fi Water Leak and Freeze Detector

Click Here to find the leak detector on Amazon

www.honeywellhome.com/water/spot-leak-detection
This device costs $58.69, runs on batteries, and sends emails when you have a leak or a freeze up. You will know with in a minute.
There is an app for your phone that allows you to check from time to time.

Wi-Fi water leak detector sends alerts by email. Also has an audible alarm. Senses temperature and humidity. Monitoring home humidity levels can assist in alerting homeowner of potential mold formation in the home. Install water leak detection systems on major appliances such as refrigerators, washing machines or hot water heaters to monitor leaks. Detector is reusable. Cold-Alert detection. Easy to install.

The best spot for your water leak detector
Get the best results from your device by hanging it in leak-prone areas, just above where it might be submerged in case of a leak. Make sure the sensor cable has good contact with the floor.

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